sevenohthr
Hey,
I am in the market for a sport bike and i was wondering which one would be best. A lot of people are saying get the Kawasaki 250 but im afraid i will outgrow this bike fast. The next option i was looking at is the 2009 Kawasaki ninja 6r. i know the basics even tho i have never ridden. I also ride 4 wheelers often but never a bike. please help Thanks.
Answer
As a beginning rider, you should stay away from "race replica" sportibkes. These are bikes which are basically store bought versions of bikes that are raced at the Supersport and Superbike level of professional motorcycle racing. They are inappropriate for a beginning rider in the same way that a Formula One racecar would be inappropriate for a new driver. The R6 is a race replica bike, and it is not where a new rider should start.
There are some more "beginner friendly" sportbikes. I would also suggest that you look at Standards as well as Sportbikes. A standard is basically similar to a sportbike, but it doesn't have the fairing. New riders tend to occasionally drop motorcycles, and a bike without fairing will take less cosmetic damage if you do drop sometime in the first 6 months or so. (Every rider that I know dropped at least once in the first 6 months - even all of the instructors I have worked with have on occasion dropped, so it happens). On a faired bike, this can be very expensive (a simple parking lot drop can do in excess of $1000 damage). On a non-faired bike, the amount of damage will usually be less to fix, and not as noticeable. For this reason also, its not a bad idea to buy a used bike - and if it's already been dropped, you won't be nervous about scratching up a perfect bike.
Make sure you take a motorcycle safety course first, then take a look at any of the following bikes:
Suzuki:
GS500F (older version of the GS500 are standards).
SV650S (the SV650 is a standard version of the same bike - see if you can find one for comparison).
Bandit 600S
Katana 600
Yamaha:
FZ6
Honda:
CBR600f4i (the CBR is very close to a race replica bike... probably good for very strong new riders only).
Kawasaki
The Ninja 250 is going to top out around 110 (unless you weigh more than 200 pounds). I ride with several people who own 250s, and they have no problem keeping up whatsoever as long as I ride at a reasonable pace in the straights. The engine will be a little wound up on the freeway (the little motor on that bike generates power by running at higher RPMs - sounds a little like a motoGP 125 or 250), and you might find the noise a little annoying, but you will learn to get more power out of the bike by not shortshifting - which is a good habit if you ever want to ride on the track. Prior to 2008, the 250's are much smaller, and are based on a late 1980's design, but the bike was redesigned in 2008, and since then, they look just like the larger ninjas. The 2008 and up 250s are pretty hard to find, as they've been very popular with new riders.
Ninja 500R (still a dated design, but a used one makes a great first bike for almost anybody).
Ninja 650R - if you were a "rockstar" in your MSF class, then this would make a decent first bike that you'll probably NEVER outgrow.
After a few thousand miles of riding experience, you can move up to a higher performance bike if you think you need to.
Riding motorcycles is dangerous - the best way to handle it is to start with the basics, and move up. Starting with a top tier racing motorcycle would be a very unwise move on your part. Experienced riders really frown on new riders who go out and buy race replica bikes. Unless you want to be called "noob" everywhere you go, start with a bike that's more appropriate for your skill level. (Any yes, it is painfully obvious to us when you're a new rider - you might be fooling yourself, but you can't fool us).
As a beginning rider, you should stay away from "race replica" sportibkes. These are bikes which are basically store bought versions of bikes that are raced at the Supersport and Superbike level of professional motorcycle racing. They are inappropriate for a beginning rider in the same way that a Formula One racecar would be inappropriate for a new driver. The R6 is a race replica bike, and it is not where a new rider should start.
There are some more "beginner friendly" sportbikes. I would also suggest that you look at Standards as well as Sportbikes. A standard is basically similar to a sportbike, but it doesn't have the fairing. New riders tend to occasionally drop motorcycles, and a bike without fairing will take less cosmetic damage if you do drop sometime in the first 6 months or so. (Every rider that I know dropped at least once in the first 6 months - even all of the instructors I have worked with have on occasion dropped, so it happens). On a faired bike, this can be very expensive (a simple parking lot drop can do in excess of $1000 damage). On a non-faired bike, the amount of damage will usually be less to fix, and not as noticeable. For this reason also, its not a bad idea to buy a used bike - and if it's already been dropped, you won't be nervous about scratching up a perfect bike.
Make sure you take a motorcycle safety course first, then take a look at any of the following bikes:
Suzuki:
GS500F (older version of the GS500 are standards).
SV650S (the SV650 is a standard version of the same bike - see if you can find one for comparison).
Bandit 600S
Katana 600
Yamaha:
FZ6
Honda:
CBR600f4i (the CBR is very close to a race replica bike... probably good for very strong new riders only).
Kawasaki
The Ninja 250 is going to top out around 110 (unless you weigh more than 200 pounds). I ride with several people who own 250s, and they have no problem keeping up whatsoever as long as I ride at a reasonable pace in the straights. The engine will be a little wound up on the freeway (the little motor on that bike generates power by running at higher RPMs - sounds a little like a motoGP 125 or 250), and you might find the noise a little annoying, but you will learn to get more power out of the bike by not shortshifting - which is a good habit if you ever want to ride on the track. Prior to 2008, the 250's are much smaller, and are based on a late 1980's design, but the bike was redesigned in 2008, and since then, they look just like the larger ninjas. The 2008 and up 250s are pretty hard to find, as they've been very popular with new riders.
Ninja 500R (still a dated design, but a used one makes a great first bike for almost anybody).
Ninja 650R - if you were a "rockstar" in your MSF class, then this would make a decent first bike that you'll probably NEVER outgrow.
After a few thousand miles of riding experience, you can move up to a higher performance bike if you think you need to.
Riding motorcycles is dangerous - the best way to handle it is to start with the basics, and move up. Starting with a top tier racing motorcycle would be a very unwise move on your part. Experienced riders really frown on new riders who go out and buy race replica bikes. Unless you want to be called "noob" everywhere you go, start with a bike that's more appropriate for your skill level. (Any yes, it is painfully obvious to us when you're a new rider - you might be fooling yourself, but you can't fool us).
Planning On Getting A Sports Bike....?
icecrawler
Okay So i wanted to Get a sports bike i was looking at getting a 1000cc one, i was looking at The Gsxr, the Yamaha R1, The Kawasaki Ninja, The S1000rr, And ext...
So in Your opinion what would You get and why?
Answer
A smaller sports bike than you are dreaming about riding, there are too many guys think they can handle a lot more bike than they are capable of safely riding --- don't believe me then go visit any hospital surgical ward and you will find guys who have crashed big time and ask what they were riding when it happened.
If you were an experienced rider you would not ask your question -- you would already know. A fast bike doesn't mean a fast ride; not if the rider isn't up to it; the more powerful the bike the slower he will be.
Think about starting where all good riders start; at the beginning...
A smaller sports bike than you are dreaming about riding, there are too many guys think they can handle a lot more bike than they are capable of safely riding --- don't believe me then go visit any hospital surgical ward and you will find guys who have crashed big time and ask what they were riding when it happened.
If you were an experienced rider you would not ask your question -- you would already know. A fast bike doesn't mean a fast ride; not if the rider isn't up to it; the more powerful the bike the slower he will be.
Think about starting where all good riders start; at the beginning...
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